As an American combat veteran, who also spent 3 months filming documentaries in Israel/Palestine, I find the comments on this article to be both uninformed and biased. During my 3 months in Israel/Palestine I personally witnessed the daily degradation and brutality inflicted upon innocent Palestinians of all ages by Israeli occupation fo…
As an American combat veteran, who also spent 3 months filming documentaries in Israel/Palestine, I find the comments on this article to be both uninformed and biased. During my 3 months in Israel/Palestine I personally witnessed the daily degradation and brutality inflicted upon innocent Palestinians of all ages by Israeli occupation forces and rabid settlers. No people on the face of the earth should have to endure the stealing of their land and homes, apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide. The overwhelming majority of people in the world, including many Jews, condemn Israel's onslaught of Gaza, and just as with the Vietnam war, in which I served 3 tours of duty, it took the passion and moral certainty of college students and young people to bring an end to the war. The accusations of antisemitism at the current demonstrations is simple a ploy to distract from the ethnic cleansing and genocide happening daily. There are many Jewish students and Jewish organizations who have dispelled the myth of rampant antisemitism at the demonstrations, and also want an end to the war, and a solution that allows the Palestinians to live in peace and dignity.
When were you there? If it was sometime after 2005, it wasn’t in Gaza because there were no ‘rabid’ settlers or occupation forces as Israel had withdrawn under great international pressure exactly so as to let the Palestinians live in dignity. What did they do instead? They voted in a terrorist government that proceeded to funnel all resources into their terror agenda instead of serving the people. This is the government the protesters are supporting today based on their lies and propaganda.
Absolutely. And they're cashing in mightily. It's no surprise that many of these guys in charge of these countries are multi billionaires while their own population is poor as rags, When they can inflame situations, they just get a sparkle in their eyes, realizing they can buy a new condo
I was there in 2003, and by the way, the International community, including the United States, have stated that the settlements in both the West Bank and Gaza, prior to 2005, are illegal under International law. Secondly, the start of Hamas was the idea of the Israeli government who sought to have a countering political entity to the Palestinian authority in the West Bank. Divide and conquer. Just because the United States government, and their subservient allies declare Hamas a terrorist organization, doesn't make it so. The definition of a terrorist is someone with a bomb, and no airforce. International law states that people whose land is illegally occupied have the right to resist and fight back. October 6 did not happen in a vacuum, the Palestinian people have had the jack-booted Israeli thugs killing and terrorizing them for over 75 years.
Also, the protesters are not demonstrating in support of Hamas, although Israeli propagandists and hasbara want everyone to think so, they are demonstrating in support of an immediate and total ceasefire, return of the hostages, and for colleges and universities to divest from any investments of companies that provide weapons and military support to Israel.
Your true colors are revealed when you say Hamas is not a terrorist organization along with 'jack-booted Israeli thugs.' You mean the same Israel that left Gaza ( with infrastructure) in 2005 where Hamas then built 400 miles of tunnels with aid money, did nothing for the Palestinians you claim to care about, including putting schools and hospitals on top of the military installations?
Have you heard what they are chanting? They are EXPLICITLY protesting in favor of Hamas and other terrorist groups. I've been in NYC and seen it firsthand. I'm not sure where you are getting your information.
Doesn't address at all what is being chanted. Some virtue signaler hoping the leopards will eat him last, lol? There are many videos available to show this. Enact your own labor.
So many things wrong with your post I don’t know where to begin. Does the ‘right to resist’ include blatant war crimes like the Oct 7 massacre or pogrom? Or suicide bombings of buses and pizza parlours? That’s interesting. 75 years of killing and terrorizing? 19 years of total withdrawal from Gaza + 17 years of military control by Egypt would leave at most 39 years of opportunity for oppression, and just how much terrorizing was going on? Does an oppressor just pack up and leave in order to appease their ‘victims’? Strange evildoers that. If Hamas was dedicated to the well being of its people, protecting them from all the killing and terrorizing, why did they not ever build even a single shelter with all the aid money they got from the gullible international community. Apparently they had other priorities, like tunnels and Hamas leaders bank accounts. I could go on, but I had to laugh at your claim that the protesters are asking for the return of the hostages!! Now that is very interesting, and suggests to me that you are seriously deluded, but you actually want to think well of the terrorist supporters. They can’t really be so evil, can they? Well, they can and they are.
I could spend time refuting much of what you posed, but instead I would ask you to click on this link and listen to what a Holocaust survivor has to say, and give me your feedback.
Well, my feedback is, poor guy, he's just wrong, and worse, his status as a Holocaust survivor is being mercilessly exploited for political gain. Hamas supporters love to find anti-Israel Jewish people and tout their Identity as Jews as a form of authority or legitimacy for their viewpoints. I don't care one bit about that. I care about what can be observed, what is empirically true. And what is demonstrable is that Hamas seeks the total destruction of Israel and death to the Jewish people (them first, all the other infidels later). They say so explicitly, not only in their charter, but in words spoken aloud by Hamas leaders post Oct 7. Apparently this Holocaust survivor is not aware of that (nor are you, it seems). That or he is under the weird impression that the protestors are equally against the Israeli government AND Hamas. Now, that may be the case among a very small minority, but that is definitely not what is observable as the main message of the public protests worldwide. It's all about the evil 'oppressor' Israel and the noble 'resistance' of their victims. "From the river to the sea" is a clear enough statement of genocidal intent.
As for the charge of Jewish people using the Holocaust as 'cover' for their Zionist evil doings, that is just patently ridiculous. That's not to say there is no one who takes advantage of their victimhood, people in general will sometimes do that (like many Palestinians and Hamas!). It is to say that properly considered, almost nothing could be more rational for the Jewish people, given all the facts of history going back two millennia, to fear the rise of forces in the world that would like so see them wiped from the Earth. That those forces exist and are currently in resurgence is an undeniable fact easily seen by any honest observer. Comparisons with Nazi Germany are entirely valid, and it is even true that Hitler supported the genocidal aims of the Grand Mufti, early Muslim Brotherhood leader and forerunner of Hamas (not 'created' by Netenyahu, as you claim, but unfortunately used by him, as you point out, for political purposes). So that's my feedback.
Rabid is an understatement. When I was filming in Hebron, I watched as the settlers spit on, threw rocks at, and intimidated any Palestinian who was near them, as the Israeli occupation forces stood by with smirks on their faces and not doing anything to stop it. they poison Palestinian wells, destroy their olive groves, and even harass and intimidate children on the way to school. If the American people saw what it was really like for the Palestinians living under occupation, there would be a whole different mindset about what Israel is perpetrating Unfortunately, the American mainstream media presents a picture that is totally skewed in favor of the Israeli narrative.
Israeli's and Palestinians lived side by side in relative harmony until the 1948 Nakba. As far as Jews living in Hebron, if they simply treated the Palestinians living there with decency and just a modicum of respect, the Palestinians would have no issue with that. A question I get from people when discussing Israel/Palestine is "Why do the Palestinians hate Americans/Israeli's so much." When I was there for 3 months, I spoke to and interviewed many hundreds of Palestinians, and not one of them ever stated that they hated Israeli's or Americans. What they did hate was the policies of the Israeli and American governments that adversely impacted their lives. Simply put, the overwhelming majority of Palestinians want to have their own state, and live in peace.
Oh the Nakba? Translation. The failure of the Arab league which was well equipped to defeat the tiny Haganah which had nothing. The first time the Arabs rejected a two state solution. Not the last.
As far as getting along together , sure thing. Google the 1929 Hebron massacre.
Interestingly when Jordan controlled the area of the West Bank it was totally ethnically cleansed of Jews. Jews couldn’t even pray at the Western Wall and the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron. Contrast that to thousands of Muslims on the Temple Mount during Ramadan.
Personally I believe that Palestinian Muslims will do anything to deny a Jewish connection to the land.
As an American combat veteran, who also spent 3 months filming documentaries in Israel/Palestine, I find the comments on this article to be both uninformed and biased. During my 3 months in Israel/Palestine I personally witnessed the daily degradation and brutality inflicted upon innocent Palestinians of all ages by Israeli occupation forces and rabid settlers. No people on the face of the earth should have to endure the stealing of their land and homes, apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide. The overwhelming majority of people in the world, including many Jews, condemn Israel's onslaught of Gaza, and just as with the Vietnam war, in which I served 3 tours of duty, it took the passion and moral certainty of college students and young people to bring an end to the war. The accusations of antisemitism at the current demonstrations is simple a ploy to distract from the ethnic cleansing and genocide happening daily. There are many Jewish students and Jewish organizations who have dispelled the myth of rampant antisemitism at the demonstrations, and also want an end to the war, and a solution that allows the Palestinians to live in peace and dignity.
When were you there? If it was sometime after 2005, it wasn’t in Gaza because there were no ‘rabid’ settlers or occupation forces as Israel had withdrawn under great international pressure exactly so as to let the Palestinians live in dignity. What did they do instead? They voted in a terrorist government that proceeded to funnel all resources into their terror agenda instead of serving the people. This is the government the protesters are supporting today based on their lies and propaganda.
Absolutely. And they're cashing in mightily. It's no surprise that many of these guys in charge of these countries are multi billionaires while their own population is poor as rags, When they can inflame situations, they just get a sparkle in their eyes, realizing they can buy a new condo
I was there in 2003, and by the way, the International community, including the United States, have stated that the settlements in both the West Bank and Gaza, prior to 2005, are illegal under International law. Secondly, the start of Hamas was the idea of the Israeli government who sought to have a countering political entity to the Palestinian authority in the West Bank. Divide and conquer. Just because the United States government, and their subservient allies declare Hamas a terrorist organization, doesn't make it so. The definition of a terrorist is someone with a bomb, and no airforce. International law states that people whose land is illegally occupied have the right to resist and fight back. October 6 did not happen in a vacuum, the Palestinian people have had the jack-booted Israeli thugs killing and terrorizing them for over 75 years.
Also, the protesters are not demonstrating in support of Hamas, although Israeli propagandists and hasbara want everyone to think so, they are demonstrating in support of an immediate and total ceasefire, return of the hostages, and for colleges and universities to divest from any investments of companies that provide weapons and military support to Israel.
Your true colors are revealed when you say Hamas is not a terrorist organization along with 'jack-booted Israeli thugs.' You mean the same Israel that left Gaza ( with infrastructure) in 2005 where Hamas then built 400 miles of tunnels with aid money, did nothing for the Palestinians you claim to care about, including putting schools and hospitals on top of the military installations?
Check out this link to a Holocaust survivor and give me your feedback, if you have the courage to watch it. https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1783270524388294756
Have you heard what they are chanting? They are EXPLICITLY protesting in favor of Hamas and other terrorist groups. I've been in NYC and seen it firsthand. I'm not sure where you are getting your information.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/jessemechanic/3349957675877061877?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1783150203152859407
Doesn't address at all what is being chanted. Some virtue signaler hoping the leopards will eat him last, lol? There are many videos available to show this. Enact your own labor.
So many things wrong with your post I don’t know where to begin. Does the ‘right to resist’ include blatant war crimes like the Oct 7 massacre or pogrom? Or suicide bombings of buses and pizza parlours? That’s interesting. 75 years of killing and terrorizing? 19 years of total withdrawal from Gaza + 17 years of military control by Egypt would leave at most 39 years of opportunity for oppression, and just how much terrorizing was going on? Does an oppressor just pack up and leave in order to appease their ‘victims’? Strange evildoers that. If Hamas was dedicated to the well being of its people, protecting them from all the killing and terrorizing, why did they not ever build even a single shelter with all the aid money they got from the gullible international community. Apparently they had other priorities, like tunnels and Hamas leaders bank accounts. I could go on, but I had to laugh at your claim that the protesters are asking for the return of the hostages!! Now that is very interesting, and suggests to me that you are seriously deluded, but you actually want to think well of the terrorist supporters. They can’t really be so evil, can they? Well, they can and they are.
I could spend time refuting much of what you posed, but instead I would ask you to click on this link and listen to what a Holocaust survivor has to say, and give me your feedback.
https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1783270524388294756
Well, my feedback is, poor guy, he's just wrong, and worse, his status as a Holocaust survivor is being mercilessly exploited for political gain. Hamas supporters love to find anti-Israel Jewish people and tout their Identity as Jews as a form of authority or legitimacy for their viewpoints. I don't care one bit about that. I care about what can be observed, what is empirically true. And what is demonstrable is that Hamas seeks the total destruction of Israel and death to the Jewish people (them first, all the other infidels later). They say so explicitly, not only in their charter, but in words spoken aloud by Hamas leaders post Oct 7. Apparently this Holocaust survivor is not aware of that (nor are you, it seems). That or he is under the weird impression that the protestors are equally against the Israeli government AND Hamas. Now, that may be the case among a very small minority, but that is definitely not what is observable as the main message of the public protests worldwide. It's all about the evil 'oppressor' Israel and the noble 'resistance' of their victims. "From the river to the sea" is a clear enough statement of genocidal intent.
As for the charge of Jewish people using the Holocaust as 'cover' for their Zionist evil doings, that is just patently ridiculous. That's not to say there is no one who takes advantage of their victimhood, people in general will sometimes do that (like many Palestinians and Hamas!). It is to say that properly considered, almost nothing could be more rational for the Jewish people, given all the facts of history going back two millennia, to fear the rise of forces in the world that would like so see them wiped from the Earth. That those forces exist and are currently in resurgence is an undeniable fact easily seen by any honest observer. Comparisons with Nazi Germany are entirely valid, and it is even true that Hitler supported the genocidal aims of the Grand Mufti, early Muslim Brotherhood leader and forerunner of Hamas (not 'created' by Netenyahu, as you claim, but unfortunately used by him, as you point out, for political purposes). So that's my feedback.
‘Rabid settlers’. Jews are dogs?
That’s the tell.
Freddie deBoer also said rabid regarding the so call right wingers who disagreed with his anti Israel stuff. Thats when I got off his substack
It’s the old ‘no Jews or dogs allowed’.
Rabid is an understatement. When I was filming in Hebron, I watched as the settlers spit on, threw rocks at, and intimidated any Palestinian who was near them, as the Israeli occupation forces stood by with smirks on their faces and not doing anything to stop it. they poison Palestinian wells, destroy their olive groves, and even harass and intimidate children on the way to school. If the American people saw what it was really like for the Palestinians living under occupation, there would be a whole different mindset about what Israel is perpetrating Unfortunately, the American mainstream media presents a picture that is totally skewed in favor of the Israeli narrative.
Why can’t Jews live in Hebron? It’s the site of the Tomb of the Patriarchs. Jews that is.
Israeli's and Palestinians lived side by side in relative harmony until the 1948 Nakba. As far as Jews living in Hebron, if they simply treated the Palestinians living there with decency and just a modicum of respect, the Palestinians would have no issue with that. A question I get from people when discussing Israel/Palestine is "Why do the Palestinians hate Americans/Israeli's so much." When I was there for 3 months, I spoke to and interviewed many hundreds of Palestinians, and not one of them ever stated that they hated Israeli's or Americans. What they did hate was the policies of the Israeli and American governments that adversely impacted their lives. Simply put, the overwhelming majority of Palestinians want to have their own state, and live in peace.
Oh the Nakba? Translation. The failure of the Arab league which was well equipped to defeat the tiny Haganah which had nothing. The first time the Arabs rejected a two state solution. Not the last.
As far as getting along together , sure thing. Google the 1929 Hebron massacre.
Interestingly when Jordan controlled the area of the West Bank it was totally ethnically cleansed of Jews. Jews couldn’t even pray at the Western Wall and the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron. Contrast that to thousands of Muslims on the Temple Mount during Ramadan.
Personally I believe that Palestinian Muslims will do anything to deny a Jewish connection to the land.