Are you seriously trying to argue that it's a grey political question whether Hamas is a terrorist organization after they brutally murdered over 1200 innocent civilians and kidnapped hundreds more, including elderly and babies? Maybe try a bit harder to hide your antisemitism.
Are you seriously trying to argue that it's a grey political question whether Hamas is a terrorist organization after they brutally murdered over 1200 innocent civilians and kidnapped hundreds more, including elderly and babies? Maybe try a bit harder to hide your antisemitism.
Wow. Calling me antisemitic - despite my being part Jewish! That is a sign of a quality intellectual discussion. I recall when Hawking & Suskind were debating properties of Black Holes, they'd always include a nasty attack on the other's character like accusing their opponent of pedophilia and such.
I am confident I am engaged in a productive conversation with a worthy partner!
In any case, I did not refer to Hamas. I replied to a statement supporting
"[D]eporting foreign nationals who express support for an officially recognized terrorist organization."
My point was that it is not always that clear cut. I gave an example of the US military partnering with the YPG and giving them military aid in the fight against ISIS. The YPG are under the PKK, who are officially recognized as a terrorist organization.
I do agree with the civilized world that Hamas is a terrorist organization illustrated by their attacks, which they video'd and distributed. I also agree that water is wet and fire is hot.
The question is about whether to deport foreign nationals who express support for Hamas, not some mythical hypothetical general principle applied to people who support the Kurds. This should be abundantly clear from the context. Your entire comments are at best irrelevant and at worst serve to muddy the waters, giving the impression that you think Hamas is equivalent to the groups you mention. If that wasn't your intent then I suggest you rethink the appropriateness of your initial response.
Oh. Now I understand! We are 'talking past each other.'
My 'the question' regards the general principle of deporting people for supporting groups that have been labeled as terrorists - and it is not hypothetical. Not for me and my family who are Kurdish. It is not hypothetical for more distant relatives who fought along side the US in Syria but, according to Turkey, are terrorists. This is personal for me & mine.
BTW: Kurdish soldiers are being targeted, along with American soldiers, by allies of Hamas. We are on the same side - and neither of us can afford to alienate friends at this time.
I am sorry that this misunderstanding caused you to be so upset. It seems you are carrying an enormous amount of anger (I can totally relate - I feel angry about Hamas' terrorist attacks, too).
I rethunk my initial response and it is definitely appropriate. Also, as I said before we cannot afford to alienate friends at this time.
Have a great day, I have happier topics to entertain me!
Are you seriously trying to argue that it's a grey political question whether Hamas is a terrorist organization after they brutally murdered over 1200 innocent civilians and kidnapped hundreds more, including elderly and babies? Maybe try a bit harder to hide your antisemitism.
Wow. Calling me antisemitic - despite my being part Jewish! That is a sign of a quality intellectual discussion. I recall when Hawking & Suskind were debating properties of Black Holes, they'd always include a nasty attack on the other's character like accusing their opponent of pedophilia and such.
I am confident I am engaged in a productive conversation with a worthy partner!
In any case, I did not refer to Hamas. I replied to a statement supporting
"[D]eporting foreign nationals who express support for an officially recognized terrorist organization."
My point was that it is not always that clear cut. I gave an example of the US military partnering with the YPG and giving them military aid in the fight against ISIS. The YPG are under the PKK, who are officially recognized as a terrorist organization.
I do agree with the civilized world that Hamas is a terrorist organization illustrated by their attacks, which they video'd and distributed. I also agree that water is wet and fire is hot.
The question is about whether to deport foreign nationals who express support for Hamas, not some mythical hypothetical general principle applied to people who support the Kurds. This should be abundantly clear from the context. Your entire comments are at best irrelevant and at worst serve to muddy the waters, giving the impression that you think Hamas is equivalent to the groups you mention. If that wasn't your intent then I suggest you rethink the appropriateness of your initial response.
Oh. Now I understand! We are 'talking past each other.'
My 'the question' regards the general principle of deporting people for supporting groups that have been labeled as terrorists - and it is not hypothetical. Not for me and my family who are Kurdish. It is not hypothetical for more distant relatives who fought along side the US in Syria but, according to Turkey, are terrorists. This is personal for me & mine.
BTW: Kurdish soldiers are being targeted, along with American soldiers, by allies of Hamas. We are on the same side - and neither of us can afford to alienate friends at this time.
I am sorry that this misunderstanding caused you to be so upset. It seems you are carrying an enormous amount of anger (I can totally relate - I feel angry about Hamas' terrorist attacks, too).
I rethunk my initial response and it is definitely appropriate. Also, as I said before we cannot afford to alienate friends at this time.
Have a great day, I have happier topics to entertain me!