If I'd wanted to write, or if I believed "black people never had it "that bad" and "slavery was good for them." I would have done so, stranger on the internet.
Your despair I fear will continue for decades, until you and the other radicals learn the basic psychology/negative effects of this reparations pity party, learn the similarly for…
If I'd wanted to write, or if I believed "black people never had it "that bad" and "slavery was good for them." I would have done so, stranger on the internet.
Your despair I fear will continue for decades, until you and the other radicals learn the basic psychology/negative effects of this reparations pity party, learn the similarly forlorn history of other peoples, (oh and how slavery started, Africans with agency anybody?) and the utter impracticality of suggesting one group of people on earth, only one, only Afr Am, get a historical refund while nobody else does, anywhere, when millions in that group palpably do well, in all sectors and have more cultural cache than any other group. Its why 'poc' vote for Trump, and it will put the GOP in power for longer than you and I will be able disagree pointlessly on the 'white supremacist' Internet. Respectfully, and exhaustedly, one more liberal turning centrist/one more centrist turning to the right because of such self absorbed arguments.
There you go again....who said anything about reparations? or Trump, GOP or the rest of that rant?And how did I, a stranger on the internet, suddenly get to be radical? smh. As for that "historical refund"--are you aware that the British Crown did give reparations to slave owners when slavery was abolished by law? Things that make you go Hmmmm....
Do you know whose navy enforced Abolition from 1800ish on? Do you know which group of people developed the new idea of abolishing slavery? Do you know who resented it? Leaders of color from Africa to Arabia to Asia. Do you know how many slaves are still in Africa and other places, but not in the West? Do you know that horrific though slavery was, and wrong that 20th century racism was, it was just much the same worldwide.
See Henry Louis Gates History of Africa, and this.
There is just no argument, historical, practical, or moral, to continue acting as if the Atlantic Slave Trade was the only event in history we should be 'sorry' for.
Yes I do know And I never said a thing about the Atlantic Slave Trade. In fact my very first comment on the thoughtful opinion piece by Pastor Ken noted my disagreement with the idea that we should spend time being sorry, feeling bad or apologizing for history. Not to mention that the history discussed was not the Atlantic Slave Trade but Jim Crow and American caste. That the conversation ends up where you are now is more proof of why despair is logical. Sigh.
If I'd wanted to write, or if I believed "black people never had it "that bad" and "slavery was good for them." I would have done so, stranger on the internet.
Your despair I fear will continue for decades, until you and the other radicals learn the basic psychology/negative effects of this reparations pity party, learn the similarly forlorn history of other peoples, (oh and how slavery started, Africans with agency anybody?) and the utter impracticality of suggesting one group of people on earth, only one, only Afr Am, get a historical refund while nobody else does, anywhere, when millions in that group palpably do well, in all sectors and have more cultural cache than any other group. Its why 'poc' vote for Trump, and it will put the GOP in power for longer than you and I will be able disagree pointlessly on the 'white supremacist' Internet. Respectfully, and exhaustedly, one more liberal turning centrist/one more centrist turning to the right because of such self absorbed arguments.
There you go again....who said anything about reparations? or Trump, GOP or the rest of that rant?And how did I, a stranger on the internet, suddenly get to be radical? smh. As for that "historical refund"--are you aware that the British Crown did give reparations to slave owners when slavery was abolished by law? Things that make you go Hmmmm....
Do you know whose navy enforced Abolition from 1800ish on? Do you know which group of people developed the new idea of abolishing slavery? Do you know who resented it? Leaders of color from Africa to Arabia to Asia. Do you know how many slaves are still in Africa and other places, but not in the West? Do you know that horrific though slavery was, and wrong that 20th century racism was, it was just much the same worldwide.
See Henry Louis Gates History of Africa, and this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrfjUzYvPo&t=747s
There is just no argument, historical, practical, or moral, to continue acting as if the Atlantic Slave Trade was the only event in history we should be 'sorry' for.
Yes I do know And I never said a thing about the Atlantic Slave Trade. In fact my very first comment on the thoughtful opinion piece by Pastor Ken noted my disagreement with the idea that we should spend time being sorry, feeling bad or apologizing for history. Not to mention that the history discussed was not the Atlantic Slave Trade but Jim Crow and American caste. That the conversation ends up where you are now is more proof of why despair is logical. Sigh.
Read Rothstein’s The Color of Law was your first comment. To which I replied. Good luck with everything.