Wow. I feel strongly you are wrong about Robin diAngelo and her research. She is not “preaching” at all; she is a researcher and has disclosed some truths that are uncomfortable for many; any division resulting from what she uncovers is due to some people’s refusal to face their own willful ignorance.
Wow. I feel strongly you are wrong about Robin diAngelo and her research. She is not “preaching” at all; she is a researcher and has disclosed some truths that are uncomfortable for many; any division resulting from what she uncovers is due to some people’s refusal to face their own willful ignorance.
You said she was "preaching division." My response was specifically, clearly directed at that. I said any division is the result of refusal to deal with willful ignorance; YOU tell me if that means you. Sounds a bit fragile at that! LOL. Her research showing that some 70% of whites answer that they got multiple jobs over their careers through connections but then insist that "nobody ever gave me anything" is one example. Your two "authorities"--Bill Maher's show for crying out loud--are just more opinions. Good examples though of how we constantly choose to reinforce our own opinions.
But aren't you trusting her "research" a bit too much? I have the book right here. She writes (I've picked a page at random): "I have a white frame of reference and a white worldview." This isn't footnoted because it's mere assertion. There is no "white" worldview, unless you're talking from the perspective of a NeoNazi and I have seen what they do here in Germany where I live. Ugh. I could write quite a bit about that. Cultures don't necessarily (if ever!) go by skin color. Thomas Sowell has written (extensively--and documented) about the ways in which Scots Irish culture became "redneck" Southern culture became ghetto culture. Here's a short summary, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pls-Z0KOOgw&t=64s
but I'd recommend his book, Black Rednecks and White Liberals. As it happens, descended as I am from Southern whites of Scots-Irish "cracker culture," his research has particular poignance for me--and if you saw me, you'd say, "Oh, there's a white person." My family background and culture is entirely different from that of a friend whose William-Wilberforcey John Singer Sargenty family resided for generations in Boston.
Wow. I feel strongly you are wrong about Robin diAngelo and her research. She is not “preaching” at all; she is a researcher and has disclosed some truths that are uncomfortable for many; any division resulting from what she uncovers is due to some people’s refusal to face their own willful ignorance.
Do you mean if I disagree with her findings I am automatically refusing to face my ignorance? Try this, especially at 1:52 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tjgXQDyqno
Or this: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/intellectual-fraud-robin-diangelos-white-fragility/
To touch the tip of the iceburg. Please let me know what you regard as "evidence" in her writing.
You said she was "preaching division." My response was specifically, clearly directed at that. I said any division is the result of refusal to deal with willful ignorance; YOU tell me if that means you. Sounds a bit fragile at that! LOL. Her research showing that some 70% of whites answer that they got multiple jobs over their careers through connections but then insist that "nobody ever gave me anything" is one example. Your two "authorities"--Bill Maher's show for crying out loud--are just more opinions. Good examples though of how we constantly choose to reinforce our own opinions.
But aren't you trusting her "research" a bit too much? I have the book right here. She writes (I've picked a page at random): "I have a white frame of reference and a white worldview." This isn't footnoted because it's mere assertion. There is no "white" worldview, unless you're talking from the perspective of a NeoNazi and I have seen what they do here in Germany where I live. Ugh. I could write quite a bit about that. Cultures don't necessarily (if ever!) go by skin color. Thomas Sowell has written (extensively--and documented) about the ways in which Scots Irish culture became "redneck" Southern culture became ghetto culture. Here's a short summary, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pls-Z0KOOgw&t=64s
but I'd recommend his book, Black Rednecks and White Liberals. As it happens, descended as I am from Southern whites of Scots-Irish "cracker culture," his research has particular poignance for me--and if you saw me, you'd say, "Oh, there's a white person." My family background and culture is entirely different from that of a friend whose William-Wilberforcey John Singer Sargenty family resided for generations in Boston.
Very good book. An excellent piece of scholarship. I recommend it as well.