Yes, the trans ideology is pretty silly, and dangerous when they put men in women's spaces, or start targeting children. This ought to be for adults, and completely consensual, after first trying to help them, as you say, grow comfortable in their own skin. So, yes, it's not just about if it helps them. But you seem to be of the position…
Yes, the trans ideology is pretty silly, and dangerous when they put men in women's spaces, or start targeting children. This ought to be for adults, and completely consensual, after first trying to help them, as you say, grow comfortable in their own skin. So, yes, it's not just about if it helps them. But you seem to be of the position that it can never possibly help them, which seems extreme to me. If a fully grown adult, after deliberation with a skilled and non-ideological therapist, decides to get a sex change, without intruding on women's spaces or competing against women, I have no problem with this. More power to them.
I don’t mind if adults want medical procedures, I just haven’t met anyone whose mental health improved for more than a few months after each stage of transition. I first met/ knew a Brad who became Brandy in grad school when I was 21-22 (so 2003-2004). (Brad to Brandy was not in school, but lived in the same apartment complex). Brandy had been in therapy for years and went to Europe for bottom surgery. A year after surgery Brandt was again depressed and lonely and delusional (Brandy started talking about wanting a period.....). It’s been a faster moving train wreck with people I’ve watched first hand more recently.
So it’s not that I think the stuff should be outlawed for adults, but qualitatively it doesn’t seem to be all that helpful in the pursuit of fulfillment from life or genuinely improved mental health based on personal observations.
Yes, the trans ideology is pretty silly, and dangerous when they put men in women's spaces, or start targeting children. This ought to be for adults, and completely consensual, after first trying to help them, as you say, grow comfortable in their own skin. So, yes, it's not just about if it helps them. But you seem to be of the position that it can never possibly help them, which seems extreme to me. If a fully grown adult, after deliberation with a skilled and non-ideological therapist, decides to get a sex change, without intruding on women's spaces or competing against women, I have no problem with this. More power to them.
I don’t mind if adults want medical procedures, I just haven’t met anyone whose mental health improved for more than a few months after each stage of transition. I first met/ knew a Brad who became Brandy in grad school when I was 21-22 (so 2003-2004). (Brad to Brandy was not in school, but lived in the same apartment complex). Brandy had been in therapy for years and went to Europe for bottom surgery. A year after surgery Brandt was again depressed and lonely and delusional (Brandy started talking about wanting a period.....). It’s been a faster moving train wreck with people I’ve watched first hand more recently.
So it’s not that I think the stuff should be outlawed for adults, but qualitatively it doesn’t seem to be all that helpful in the pursuit of fulfillment from life or genuinely improved mental health based on personal observations.