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Deeply_Concerned's avatar

The problem is that there is no questioning allowed. In regards to the trans movement any comment critical of the trans movement is labeled trans-phobic and hate speech. There is no place for debate.

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Gerald Budd's avatar

Good call. Cloak the issue/rhetoric in democracy and the over used inclusivity wording. It is debate, evidence based, fact driven argument that should be presented. Medical science anyone? Gender dysphoria, which was originally Gender ID, is totally different from removal of body parts with respect to your aforementioned comment.

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B.'s avatar

Greeks don't question Greek Orthodoxy. Many of us who might not like certain aspects of its dogma nevertheless find comfort in the liturgy and rituals familiar to and beloved by our grandparents (when we do attend church) and go about our daily business as we need to. It works out.

I guess it's like cafeteria Catholics -- except that Catholicism makes noises about relevancy and cultural issues, and Catholics debate them. The Greek Orthodox Church is tolerant of its wayward and sporadic members but stands rooted in its history.

I hope it is never silly enough to repair the schism and team up with Rome.

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Jack Jay's avatar

Exactly; and don't even think about criticizing Islam!

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Emma Fields's avatar

The existence of trans people is not a matter of debate. What, do you think you can debate someone into denying their own experience? We have a word for that. It's called gaslighting.

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Deeply_Concerned's avatar

This post is not debating the existence of trans people. Transgender people have been part of the human community for thousands of years and they deserve dignity, respect and all civil rights (except when those rights encroach upon the hard won rights of natal women such as in sports and battered women's shelters) however, what desperately needs debate is the notion that drugs, chemicals and surgery (all of which are irreversible and have serious health risks), are the best treatment for gender dysphoria, especially in young people and adolescents, population groups that are not able to understand the full ramifications of irreversible decisions that will affect the rest of their lives. There are many ways to support, validate, and respect gender non-conformity without the necessity to tamper with healthy young bodies.

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