You say you “don’t know why the hell it’s been so easy to poison the liberal well this way”. Well it’s because modern liberals ( whose usual party of choice in America has been the Democrats) allowed it to be hijacked incrementally by the radical left. And historically speaking, intolerance, subjugation, tyranny and mass scale murder has…
You say you “don’t know why the hell it’s been so easy to poison the liberal well this way”. Well it’s because modern liberals ( whose usual party of choice in America has been the Democrats) allowed it to be hijacked incrementally by the radical left. And historically speaking, intolerance, subjugation, tyranny and mass scale murder has always been the result of leftist ideologies. Marxists, communists and socialists have always professed to care about oppressed peoples but in actuality despise them and only use them to achieve their despotic ends.
From Russia to China to Cambodia and Cuba, history is replete with the evidence. And with the ennabling by well intentioned liberals, this cancer has now metastasized in America and we are enduring our own version of the Cultural Revolution dressed in Wokeism. You want to talk cults? This movement is the mother of all cults.
What you say is all true, and for sure, all the cancers the left thought only existed on the right - misogyny, anti-Semitism, racism, homophobia, etc. have always been there, as has been cancel culture long before it had a name (Google E.O. Wilson sometime if you're bored & aren't familiar with this problems with Boomer college students). What gets me I think is the conscious turning over of one's critical thinking faculties to what you so aptly describe as a cult (as have myself and many others). What particularly bothers me is how easily gaslit so many feminists are by manipulative men who appropriate womanhood and get the girlies to do what they want (except for lesbians who seem a bit more rebellious against penii, lol). Feminism has a very long way to go when women can be convinced to allow male bodies - even convicted sex offenders! - in female spaces and prisons. I've never figured out why the hippies could condemn Nixon's campaign in Vietnam in one breath and support ratbastards like Castro and other southern hemisphere dictators so easily. Or how white so-called liberals today can bow and scrape before the racists in 'antiracism' who are clearly just as racist (against white people), including re-defining a fair number of non-white Jews as white to justify their anti-Semitism. But to be honest, I've been just as mystified by how far-righters have hijacked conservatism and turned it into MAGA stupidity. Chickens for Colonel Sanders, and many genuine conservatives who haven't turned their brains over to the MAGA cult are just as afraid to speak up against their own terrorists as libs are against our woke ones.
I'm one lesbian who has protested regularly at my UU church, all to no avail. It has been three years of seeing UU becoming an illiberal, anti-women, and racist religion. This has been a very sad and angry time for me.
You could also call it social justice warriorism, or identity politics, or identitarnism, or cultural progressivism,or post-modernism, or social media activism, or intersectional feminism, or 4th wave feminism, or something else if you like. The point is there is a social movement a trend, which has grown significantly since about 2013, which people often refer to as "wokeness." The name is less important the phenomenon. While yes, conservatives and Neo-fasicists and MAGA's and all those folks also talk about this phenomenon, that doesn't mean the phenomenon doesn't exist. In fact you are using two different forms of sophistry and deceptive rhetoric here. You're trying to change the subject by getting people to focus on the name of the social movement rather than the substance of the thing itself. You'e also trying to dismiss any critique or even discussion (or indeed naming) of that movement by asserting that, by definition, anyone attempting to discuss and critique it are right wing fasicists, bigots, etc. Anyone who follows these issues fairly knows that isn't true. This ideological split is not so new. It's what Frederick Douglas criticized William Garrison about in the abolition movement. It's what MLK criticized the Nation of Islam about. Hell, it's what older Malcolm X criticized younger Malcom X about. If you want to discuss sincerely, go read a book then come back. If you want to troll, please just stop.
I can just visualize you scratching and clawing at yourself, trying to find the most vulgar utterances to make us sane folks feel threatened. Whaaagh, not happening. 👏👍
Nice try. You clearly do not have a clue about the definition of a troll. This is my forum and subject. Trolling is when someone posts or comments online to ‘bait’ people, which means deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction. In fact, they surf the net looking for it. And you clearly do. GTFOH.
If the shoe fits. Not my fault DEI/CSJ chose to embrace the concept of wokeness to champion their cause. Heterodox "woke" need to vehemently reject these concepts if they want to save the term.
You say you “don’t know why the hell it’s been so easy to poison the liberal well this way”. Well it’s because modern liberals ( whose usual party of choice in America has been the Democrats) allowed it to be hijacked incrementally by the radical left. And historically speaking, intolerance, subjugation, tyranny and mass scale murder has always been the result of leftist ideologies. Marxists, communists and socialists have always professed to care about oppressed peoples but in actuality despise them and only use them to achieve their despotic ends.
From Russia to China to Cambodia and Cuba, history is replete with the evidence. And with the ennabling by well intentioned liberals, this cancer has now metastasized in America and we are enduring our own version of the Cultural Revolution dressed in Wokeism. You want to talk cults? This movement is the mother of all cults.
What you say is all true, and for sure, all the cancers the left thought only existed on the right - misogyny, anti-Semitism, racism, homophobia, etc. have always been there, as has been cancel culture long before it had a name (Google E.O. Wilson sometime if you're bored & aren't familiar with this problems with Boomer college students). What gets me I think is the conscious turning over of one's critical thinking faculties to what you so aptly describe as a cult (as have myself and many others). What particularly bothers me is how easily gaslit so many feminists are by manipulative men who appropriate womanhood and get the girlies to do what they want (except for lesbians who seem a bit more rebellious against penii, lol). Feminism has a very long way to go when women can be convinced to allow male bodies - even convicted sex offenders! - in female spaces and prisons. I've never figured out why the hippies could condemn Nixon's campaign in Vietnam in one breath and support ratbastards like Castro and other southern hemisphere dictators so easily. Or how white so-called liberals today can bow and scrape before the racists in 'antiracism' who are clearly just as racist (against white people), including re-defining a fair number of non-white Jews as white to justify their anti-Semitism. But to be honest, I've been just as mystified by how far-righters have hijacked conservatism and turned it into MAGA stupidity. Chickens for Colonel Sanders, and many genuine conservatives who haven't turned their brains over to the MAGA cult are just as afraid to speak up against their own terrorists as libs are against our woke ones.
I'm one lesbian who has protested regularly at my UU church, all to no avail. It has been three years of seeing UU becoming an illiberal, anti-women, and racist religion. This has been a very sad and angry time for me.
Thanks for saying what needs to be said more often.
You could also call it social justice warriorism, or identity politics, or identitarnism, or cultural progressivism,or post-modernism, or social media activism, or intersectional feminism, or 4th wave feminism, or something else if you like. The point is there is a social movement a trend, which has grown significantly since about 2013, which people often refer to as "wokeness." The name is less important the phenomenon. While yes, conservatives and Neo-fasicists and MAGA's and all those folks also talk about this phenomenon, that doesn't mean the phenomenon doesn't exist. In fact you are using two different forms of sophistry and deceptive rhetoric here. You're trying to change the subject by getting people to focus on the name of the social movement rather than the substance of the thing itself. You'e also trying to dismiss any critique or even discussion (or indeed naming) of that movement by asserting that, by definition, anyone attempting to discuss and critique it are right wing fasicists, bigots, etc. Anyone who follows these issues fairly knows that isn't true. This ideological split is not so new. It's what Frederick Douglas criticized William Garrison about in the abolition movement. It's what MLK criticized the Nation of Islam about. Hell, it's what older Malcolm X criticized younger Malcom X about. If you want to discuss sincerely, go read a book then come back. If you want to troll, please just stop.
Good faith? Introducing vulgarity into the conversation is not good faith.
Your vulgarity is unwelcome.
Oh my, are you ‘triggered’? Feel ‘unsafe’?
SO sorry Scottie 😩
Triggered? No, I hope for a much less vulgar culture.
Oh Scottie,
I can just visualize you scratching and clawing at yourself, trying to find the most vulgar utterances to make us sane folks feel threatened. Whaaagh, not happening. 👏👍
The fact that you came on here to while about the post, shows you are the one whining. LOL
Nice try. You clearly do not have a clue about the definition of a troll. This is my forum and subject. Trolling is when someone posts or comments online to ‘bait’ people, which means deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction. In fact, they surf the net looking for it. And you clearly do. GTFOH.
If the shoe fits. Not my fault DEI/CSJ chose to embrace the concept of wokeness to champion their cause. Heterodox "woke" need to vehemently reject these concepts if they want to save the term.
Oh look, you are able to regurgitate your nonsense twice.