I highly doubt that the protests are ‘against the policies ‘ of Israel. You know better. The protests are for the annihilation of Israel. They are explicitly pro Hamas. Don’t write bullshit.
I highly doubt that the protests are ‘against the policies ‘ of Israel. You know better. The protests are for the annihilation of Israel. They are explicitly pro Hamas. Don’t write bullshit.
nuance, not all of them are like that. Palistine does want extermination but Isreal said the same thing but more politely. Zizek got flack for pointing that out and was falsely called an anti-Semite. i mean he said it right after that said that the attacks by Hamas should be universally condemed and anyone who doesn't do that has a screw loose.
Welcome to war propaganda. nuance is lost. people neglect the shades of grey.
on the other hand, it's not like your'e off base to be worried. because some extremists REALLY DO SUPPORT HAMAS. it's a woke mind virus. i swear they and their censorship was no different than fascists and the ultra conservitive right.
Romania and the soviets used to be very very pro life. even banning contraceptives.
So I don’t agree with a lot here but I do get your point about creating martyrs. That being said, at Columbia they are really making a true hostile environment for many many Jewish students who don’t support Hamas. Many of the chants are explicitly eliminationist. Like you said there is no nuance. Also we all know if it was winter this wouldn’t be happening!
I too am frankly surprised that Monica took this stance. I love her and her leadership a lot, but this article was... off-base and filled with incorrect info. Also, the story of that young woman being stuck in the face with a flag stick was proven to have been an extreme exaggeration & not a deliberate act of violence attempting to injure her. Further, the Zionist counter-protesters engaged in a lot more violence than the pro-Palestinian supporters. Most of the latter were also not explicitly pro-Hamas, so that slanderous comment was also unlike Monica. This was an unpleasant post to read, but I understand we are not always going to agree in full with our heroes. Needless to say, FAIR is supposed to be against identity politics, and I would like to remind Monica that Zionism is a most pernicious example of that. It is very unbecoming of one of the leaders of FAIR to be defending any manifestation of it, including playing into the fallacy that opposing an explicitly ethnocentric ideology like Zionism, or a whole nation based on it like Israel, is "antisemitism." There should be no connection between an ideology espousing ethno-supremacist views based on the Perpetual Victim trope and any ethnic and/or religious demographic. Nor should support for Hamas be assumed by supporters of Palestinian liberation from the conditions of Gaza.
I highly doubt that the protests are ‘against the policies ‘ of Israel. You know better. The protests are for the annihilation of Israel. They are explicitly pro Hamas. Don’t write bullshit.
They are Marxist wanting the downfall of western culture. Calling themselves comrades.
most of them maybe.
They WANT the police to beat them up.
They WANT the national guard called in.
When they create their first martyr, that will spark nationwide protests.
And the right is taking the bait.
Idk. Negotiating with them is nuts. They are spewing a lot of hatred. You would just ignore?
nuance, not all of them are like that. Palistine does want extermination but Isreal said the same thing but more politely. Zizek got flack for pointing that out and was falsely called an anti-Semite. i mean he said it right after that said that the attacks by Hamas should be universally condemed and anyone who doesn't do that has a screw loose.
Welcome to war propaganda. nuance is lost. people neglect the shades of grey.
on the other hand, it's not like your'e off base to be worried. because some extremists REALLY DO SUPPORT HAMAS. it's a woke mind virus. i swear they and their censorship was no different than fascists and the ultra conservitive right.
Romania and the soviets used to be very very pro life. even banning contraceptives.
So I don’t agree with a lot here but I do get your point about creating martyrs. That being said, at Columbia they are really making a true hostile environment for many many Jewish students who don’t support Hamas. Many of the chants are explicitly eliminationist. Like you said there is no nuance. Also we all know if it was winter this wouldn’t be happening!
but that's the point. it's "mid level violence". it's a Marxist tactic. it's provocation. it's something that i think is from Alinsky or Marcuse
I too am frankly surprised that Monica took this stance. I love her and her leadership a lot, but this article was... off-base and filled with incorrect info. Also, the story of that young woman being stuck in the face with a flag stick was proven to have been an extreme exaggeration & not a deliberate act of violence attempting to injure her. Further, the Zionist counter-protesters engaged in a lot more violence than the pro-Palestinian supporters. Most of the latter were also not explicitly pro-Hamas, so that slanderous comment was also unlike Monica. This was an unpleasant post to read, but I understand we are not always going to agree in full with our heroes. Needless to say, FAIR is supposed to be against identity politics, and I would like to remind Monica that Zionism is a most pernicious example of that. It is very unbecoming of one of the leaders of FAIR to be defending any manifestation of it, including playing into the fallacy that opposing an explicitly ethnocentric ideology like Zionism, or a whole nation based on it like Israel, is "antisemitism." There should be no connection between an ideology espousing ethno-supremacist views based on the Perpetual Victim trope and any ethnic and/or religious demographic. Nor should support for Hamas be assumed by supporters of Palestinian liberation from the conditions of Gaza.
i fear you may be correct Allan W