Picture halal certification as a giant cash machine, raking in trillions by slapping fees on everything from meat to tea, with the money flowing straight to certain groups. Poke at it—like that Hindu school board member did by questioning why rice needs a religious label—and those groups lash out, using their clout to crush free speech and fair treatment. In her case, it meant biased meetings, secret deals, and getting booted from key roles just to safeguard the profits. Keep feeding this beast, and you get more of the same: bullying that sidelines non-Muslims, ignores alternatives, and puts money and control over basic Western freedoms in diverse places. That's the problem, plain and simple—economic greed dressed as culture, trampling rights when threatened.
Business owners are allowed to produce products with religious certification if they wish to do so. Keep on exploring this issue enough and you'll discover that Kosher labels are also slapped all over random products in America. But of course you don't care about the Jews, you just want to single it the Muslims who are the target of your special animosity, hatred, and contempt. Continue to pursue this and it will bring you into conflict with Jewish people whether you want it or not. But I guess I should just let you discover that yourself. Businesses are private institutions and you have no right to demand they not certify their products.
You’re sidestepping the entire argument. No one said private businesses can’t choose certification — that’s a red herring. The point is how halal certification has turned into a massive revenue stream that now reaches into public institutions and supply chains, raising serious concerns about secular boundaries and consumer choice. Tax dollars are not supposed to help or favor any religions!
Comparing it to kosher labeling doesn’t fix anything — it’s just a distraction. The issue isn’t one religion over another; it’s that ANY religion using certification to expand control through commerce undermines the secular principles that are supposed to apply to everyone.
You’re not acting like a good citizen by pretending this is about hatred. You’re twisting the argument in bad faith, ignoring your civic duty to uphold secularism, and hiding behind false comparisons to shield one group from the same scrutiny others face. Playing the victim doesn’t make that tactic legitimate — it only shows you can’t defend your position honestly.
This kind of dishonesty doesn’t benefit society; it weakens free speech, free thought, and freedom from religion — the foundations of a truly pluralistic country. Secularism protects everyone, yet people like you twist that principle to serve narrow communal interests. That’s how stable, fair, and just nations start to unravel — through those who claim victimhood while eroding universal protections.
This story is confusing. In what context was Karthik objecting to halal food? And if the community is 95% Hindu, would Halal food be required at all? Please clarify
American public schools maintained secular stability for centuries by serving neutral food without religious certifications. This system treated all students identically and kept the public square free from sectarian influence. The rules that kept the West free relied on this strict separation, ensuring that no faith received special treatment at the expense of others.
New immigrants and naive local officials are now destroying this pluralistic system. By introducing halal-certified rice and tea, they are forcing taxpayers to fund religious oversight and faith-based schemes. This is a direct violation of secularism; it is the state actively supporting and subsidizing religion. These groups are failing the basic requirements of citizenship by importing the same religious tensions they escaped, rather than upholding the neutral standards of their new home.
The situation in South Brunswick exposes this behavior as a power struggle. Hindu and Muslim populations are not seeking "tolerance"; they are competing for cultural dominance and using the cafeteria to exert influence. When school board VP Deepa Karthik questioned the creep of these certifications, she was attacked for disrupting a religious-concession racket. This proves that dietary concessions do not foster inclusion; they birth aggressive identity groups and social destabilization.
To protect the freedom of all citizens, the government must stop playing favorites with religious groups. Taxpayer money should never fund sectarian requirements. Schools must ditch all religious concessions immediately and return to serving only neutral food. Restoring this secular standard is the only way to end the division caused by those who refuse to respect the boundaries between religion and the state.
Picture halal certification as a giant cash machine, raking in trillions by slapping fees on everything from meat to tea, with the money flowing straight to certain groups. Poke at it—like that Hindu school board member did by questioning why rice needs a religious label—and those groups lash out, using their clout to crush free speech and fair treatment. In her case, it meant biased meetings, secret deals, and getting booted from key roles just to safeguard the profits. Keep feeding this beast, and you get more of the same: bullying that sidelines non-Muslims, ignores alternatives, and puts money and control over basic Western freedoms in diverse places. That's the problem, plain and simple—economic greed dressed as culture, trampling rights when threatened.
Business owners are allowed to produce products with religious certification if they wish to do so. Keep on exploring this issue enough and you'll discover that Kosher labels are also slapped all over random products in America. But of course you don't care about the Jews, you just want to single it the Muslims who are the target of your special animosity, hatred, and contempt. Continue to pursue this and it will bring you into conflict with Jewish people whether you want it or not. But I guess I should just let you discover that yourself. Businesses are private institutions and you have no right to demand they not certify their products.
You’re sidestepping the entire argument. No one said private businesses can’t choose certification — that’s a red herring. The point is how halal certification has turned into a massive revenue stream that now reaches into public institutions and supply chains, raising serious concerns about secular boundaries and consumer choice. Tax dollars are not supposed to help or favor any religions!
Comparing it to kosher labeling doesn’t fix anything — it’s just a distraction. The issue isn’t one religion over another; it’s that ANY religion using certification to expand control through commerce undermines the secular principles that are supposed to apply to everyone.
You’re not acting like a good citizen by pretending this is about hatred. You’re twisting the argument in bad faith, ignoring your civic duty to uphold secularism, and hiding behind false comparisons to shield one group from the same scrutiny others face. Playing the victim doesn’t make that tactic legitimate — it only shows you can’t defend your position honestly.
This kind of dishonesty doesn’t benefit society; it weakens free speech, free thought, and freedom from religion — the foundations of a truly pluralistic country. Secularism protects everyone, yet people like you twist that principle to serve narrow communal interests. That’s how stable, fair, and just nations start to unravel — through those who claim victimhood while eroding universal protections.
This story is confusing. In what context was Karthik objecting to halal food? And if the community is 95% Hindu, would Halal food be required at all? Please clarify
American public schools maintained secular stability for centuries by serving neutral food without religious certifications. This system treated all students identically and kept the public square free from sectarian influence. The rules that kept the West free relied on this strict separation, ensuring that no faith received special treatment at the expense of others.
New immigrants and naive local officials are now destroying this pluralistic system. By introducing halal-certified rice and tea, they are forcing taxpayers to fund religious oversight and faith-based schemes. This is a direct violation of secularism; it is the state actively supporting and subsidizing religion. These groups are failing the basic requirements of citizenship by importing the same religious tensions they escaped, rather than upholding the neutral standards of their new home.
The situation in South Brunswick exposes this behavior as a power struggle. Hindu and Muslim populations are not seeking "tolerance"; they are competing for cultural dominance and using the cafeteria to exert influence. When school board VP Deepa Karthik questioned the creep of these certifications, she was attacked for disrupting a religious-concession racket. This proves that dietary concessions do not foster inclusion; they birth aggressive identity groups and social destabilization.
To protect the freedom of all citizens, the government must stop playing favorites with religious groups. Taxpayer money should never fund sectarian requirements. Schools must ditch all religious concessions immediately and return to serving only neutral food. Restoring this secular standard is the only way to end the division caused by those who refuse to respect the boundaries between religion and the state.