The conflation of trans/'queer' ideology with gay rights seems almost certainly to have been done to damage the gay rights cause. I bet that 99% of the people who burnt pride flags would say that they have no problem with gay people but they object to the sexualisation of children and the normalisation of things like furry culture, and o…
The conflation of trans/'queer' ideology with gay rights seems almost certainly to have been done to damage the gay rights cause. I bet that 99% of the people who burnt pride flags would say that they have no problem with gay people but they object to the sexualisation of children and the normalisation of things like furry culture, and other things that look like borderline paedophilia. Those unsavoury groups then use their LGBTQ+ status to hide behind the genuine victimisation that gay people have experienced.
The best thing the gay community could do to reclaim its identity would be go back to using the acronym LGB, but boy will they get called bigots if they do that
I agree with this comment, but I’d I say not “almost certainly,” but “definitely” the conflation of trans/queer with gay rights seeks to eradicate gays. Trans denies the sexual binary, the reproductive strategy of the human race. If there’s no such thing as biological sex, then homosexuality is meaningless. According to that dogma, I as a lesbian should be ready and willing to have a male partner who identifies as a woman. It doesn’t work that way.
Trans activism takes advantage of the good will of heterosexuals, using gays as a trojan horse to promote an agenda that would have us believe that a two year-old knows they have a “gender identity” that is different from their sex. What a scam.
Gay is not trans. As a lesbian, I am not a member of any LGBTQetc. “community”. Never was, never will be.
Yes, it's always seemed pretty obvious that trans ideology is inherently misogynistic. Women are called bigots for demanding female spaces, and lesbians are called TERFs for refusing to have relationships with 'trans women'. It's one of those things that's so obvious, that one wonders what the people going along with it (especially the women) are actually getting out of it
That's a very good point. All the backlash, IMO, is more than likely about the trans movement being shoved down our throats and has nothing to do with gay movement. I honestly don't know any of my gay friends who participate in pride anymore and I live in SF.
The one trans (or rather 'non binary') person I know is like a caricature of all the things people dislike about trans culture: he's a man who wears women's clothes, surrounds himself (or rather 'themself') with plush toys and My Little Pony crap, and posts on social media about how important Pride Month is for 'us'.
I don't think he's part of any grand conspiracy, I just think he's a bit of a weirdo, but you can see how people like that would gravitate towards an identity that allows them to be as provocative as they like and still claim victim status. He's not gay and has a daughter btw 😳
Sounds exactly like the local we see at our coffee shop who has a few kids. He looks so ridiculous with his pink and green eye shadow and really bad outfits, yet he uses his victim status to be outright rude to the staff. The manager of the coffee shop however won't put up with any of his bullshit and last time told him/her/they/them needed to leave. The manager is a gay man so he doesn't get any pushback.
I agree 100% about him being gay shouldn't matter but I think it was relevant because I'm not sure if the Manager were straight, he or she would be given the same grace on their actions of telling the ridiculous person to leave. This is in San Francisco and the liberal meter runs high.
Given the grace by whom? If people would stand up for an antisocial bully simply because he's trans, I'd say they're part of the problem. I feel like this state of affairs can't go on much longer
Many MANY people "would stand up for an antisocial bully simply because he's trans". That's what's been happening for years now, and only recently has pushback been socially OK. Musk buying Twitter was the signature event that undercut some of the power of the transactivists. They still wholly own the Democratic Party though.
I know what you mean, but I feel like how people react online is often not how they would react IRL. Then again, I don't live in San Francisco! I've visited Brighton (UK) plenty of times though, and I can imagine some people there letting trans people walk all over them
I completely agree. We won the freedom to marry by showing society we were no threat, nor were we really any different than they were. It seems the trans movement wants the complete opposite. I say let them have it and let us take back our movement from them, HRC, and all the other homophobes who have infiltrated the gay movement.
Yes, it really feels like they're gaslighting by acting threateningly but then demanding love and acceptance, kinda like they WANT the inevitable backlash.
I had to look up who HRC were, and I see their office in DC says on the facade in huge lettering 'Black Lives Matter | Black Trans Lives Matter'. Real inclusive!
The conflation of trans/'queer' ideology with gay rights seems almost certainly to have been done to damage the gay rights cause. I bet that 99% of the people who burnt pride flags would say that they have no problem with gay people but they object to the sexualisation of children and the normalisation of things like furry culture, and other things that look like borderline paedophilia. Those unsavoury groups then use their LGBTQ+ status to hide behind the genuine victimisation that gay people have experienced.
The best thing the gay community could do to reclaim its identity would be go back to using the acronym LGB, but boy will they get called bigots if they do that
I agree with this comment, but I’d I say not “almost certainly,” but “definitely” the conflation of trans/queer with gay rights seeks to eradicate gays. Trans denies the sexual binary, the reproductive strategy of the human race. If there’s no such thing as biological sex, then homosexuality is meaningless. According to that dogma, I as a lesbian should be ready and willing to have a male partner who identifies as a woman. It doesn’t work that way.
Trans activism takes advantage of the good will of heterosexuals, using gays as a trojan horse to promote an agenda that would have us believe that a two year-old knows they have a “gender identity” that is different from their sex. What a scam.
Gay is not trans. As a lesbian, I am not a member of any LGBTQetc. “community”. Never was, never will be.
Yes, it's always seemed pretty obvious that trans ideology is inherently misogynistic. Women are called bigots for demanding female spaces, and lesbians are called TERFs for refusing to have relationships with 'trans women'. It's one of those things that's so obvious, that one wonders what the people going along with it (especially the women) are actually getting out of it
That's a very good point. All the backlash, IMO, is more than likely about the trans movement being shoved down our throats and has nothing to do with gay movement. I honestly don't know any of my gay friends who participate in pride anymore and I live in SF.
The one trans (or rather 'non binary') person I know is like a caricature of all the things people dislike about trans culture: he's a man who wears women's clothes, surrounds himself (or rather 'themself') with plush toys and My Little Pony crap, and posts on social media about how important Pride Month is for 'us'.
I don't think he's part of any grand conspiracy, I just think he's a bit of a weirdo, but you can see how people like that would gravitate towards an identity that allows them to be as provocative as they like and still claim victim status. He's not gay and has a daughter btw 😳
Sounds exactly like the local we see at our coffee shop who has a few kids. He looks so ridiculous with his pink and green eye shadow and really bad outfits, yet he uses his victim status to be outright rude to the staff. The manager of the coffee shop however won't put up with any of his bullshit and last time told him/her/they/them needed to leave. The manager is a gay man so he doesn't get any pushback.
That's good that the manager stood up to him, but it really shouldn't matter that he's gay. These people are just antisocial and unpleasant.
When people with kids do it it's a whole other level of horrific. I have a post about exactly that in my drafts that I will finish sooner or later
I agree 100% about him being gay shouldn't matter but I think it was relevant because I'm not sure if the Manager were straight, he or she would be given the same grace on their actions of telling the ridiculous person to leave. This is in San Francisco and the liberal meter runs high.
Given the grace by whom? If people would stand up for an antisocial bully simply because he's trans, I'd say they're part of the problem. I feel like this state of affairs can't go on much longer
Well, as I like to say, GWL (guilty white liberals) and progressives which make up a large percentage of SF residents.
Many MANY people "would stand up for an antisocial bully simply because he's trans". That's what's been happening for years now, and only recently has pushback been socially OK. Musk buying Twitter was the signature event that undercut some of the power of the transactivists. They still wholly own the Democratic Party though.
I know what you mean, but I feel like how people react online is often not how they would react IRL. Then again, I don't live in San Francisco! I've visited Brighton (UK) plenty of times though, and I can imagine some people there letting trans people walk all over them
I completely agree. We won the freedom to marry by showing society we were no threat, nor were we really any different than they were. It seems the trans movement wants the complete opposite. I say let them have it and let us take back our movement from them, HRC, and all the other homophobes who have infiltrated the gay movement.
Yes, it really feels like they're gaslighting by acting threateningly but then demanding love and acceptance, kinda like they WANT the inevitable backlash.
I had to look up who HRC were, and I see their office in DC says on the facade in huge lettering 'Black Lives Matter | Black Trans Lives Matter'. Real inclusive!
LGB Alliance and LGB Without the T already do that. I support them.