An interview with a former nurse who worked for five years at Jail Health, a division of King County Public Health in Seattle, about cross-sex housing and safety concerns for female inmates
This is not compassion. This is an injustice to further traumatize women by allowing biological males to enter and potentially control their limited prison spaces.
There is a thread running through the discussions on transwomen in female-only spaces: it is biological women who are expected, as always, to "accommodate" biological men. Women athletes are expected to "support" transwomen competing against them, we are expected to "welcome" transwomen in our washrooms, rape crisis centres and even domestic abuse shelters. And women in prison, who as the whistle-blower rightly points out, have zero recourse - they cannot leave. Anyone still wondering how Trump won the election?
Women being required to accommodate men is a tale as old as time. You’d think society would run out of ideas for ways to put the needs and desires of men above than the needs and desires of women, wouldn’t you?
Bear in mind, I am Canadian and watching this play out across the border, but the conversation is the same in Canada, and we are on track to elect Trump lite. Am I happy about that? Not at all. But the sense I have is that the Democrats and Canada's Liberal Party are not listening and are centering policy of all kinds on gender identity. Big mistake, as probably 70% to 80% of the electorate disagrees with that approach.
Can anyone imagine being a victim of rape and having to be quiet about being uncomfortable with a penis in your space? I don't think violent people should be housed with non-violent people EVER as it is. I don't care. I'll be the bigot, the -phobe, the -ist. Call me whatever you want. This is wrong.
Amazing interview about a topic that needs to be amplified over and over again - LOUDLY. This kind of treatment of any human being, particularly the female inmates, is wrong and it needs to be fought with lawsuits. The time for women to rise, to stand up for one another, and for others to ostracize those who support this type of injustice is now. I admire the whistleblower. She seems to be one of the few medical professionals in these spaces actually upholding the Hippocratic Oath.
I have no doubt that you believe Olivia's account, but since one of the main challenges with educating the public on this issue is liberal disbelief of events not reported inside their media bubble, it will help significantly with the credibility of your story if you could explain how you verified Olivia's identity to your satisfaction, to the extent you are able while still respecting her need to remain anonymous.
You may recall that mainstream news services sometimes do this with a Note From The Editor at the beginning of the story, when they are reporting the account of an anonymous source.
This is a great question. Olivia provided me with copies of the institutional policy in PDF format. I included screenshots of that policy due to the limitations of Substack, but this is a verifiable source of information. While I did not personally attempt to contact KCJ to get their version of the story or to verify the authenticity of the documents, FAIR's legal team has been involved and supported by a Washington state attorney. In the article, I included a link to FAIR's legal action, which began in the summer based on other complaints to the Washington Department of Corrections.
...who presumably want your published stories to be taken seriously by journalists, and re-published or used as sources, in order to spread the message.
Journalists are welcomed to contact us to fact-check, as well they should as part of their job. Our newsletter is not the press, although we have chosen to make it available to the public. It is a newsletter to our advocacy supporters for our missions who subscribed to stay updated on what we’re doing. We clarify again here the distinction.
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Of course. If the option to be housed with women were removed, most of these men wouldn't claim a trans identity. If you read Reduxx you'll find story after story of men who suddenly realized they were trans at the age of 50 after they were convicted of rape or murder. Convicted rapists, murderers and pedophiles, not famous for their integrity and honesty, are being gifted with a one-way ticket to Club Med simply by "identifying" as a woman.
"To be with women" is a euphemism for what they really want. Enough rapes, assaults, harassment and pregnancies have occurred all over the country to make that point perfectly clear.
Trans activists worked for years to remove all the governmental gatekeeping that used to be part of the transition process, e.g., psychotherapy, living as the opposite sex for a period of time without medicalizing to see how it feels, and finally taking hormones and having surgeries.
Now, in prison systems across the country, a man need only assert a woman identity, regardless of medical or historical evidence. The wanton disregard for the safety and welfare of incarcerated women, some of the most marginalized, disenfranchised women in the country, is an utter disgrace.
Postscript: I should have made it clear that whether or not men have a medical history of transgender identification (cross dressing, taking hormones), they are still men and do not belong in women's prisons in any case, with or without intact genitalia. Men have raped female inmates with the handle of a hairbrush. Addressing the issue of vulnerable trans-identified men in men's prisons should be resolved separately, not on the backs of women.
I personally don't draw any difference between "trans women" and men. In my opinion there is no difference. We need to base our decisions off of facts in law, sex is a fact. Segregation between women and men should be based off of sex and only sex.
"Our suspicion that females identifying as transgender were not benefiting from the transgender housing policies like males were" - So, patent sex discrimination. Somebody should sue
Up here in Canada, we have Heather Mason, who's been working tirelessly on bringing this issue to light. But, our legacy media outlets still refuse to acknowledge this is happening, so the vast majority of Canadians have no idea what is going on. And, sadly, a significant proportion prefer it that way.
This is cruel and unusual punishment for the women. If the ACLU actually did its stated job we'd have put an end to this already. And by the by, "transgender status" is always false. There is no point in declaring it, because it doesn't actually change any material fact about the person. At best, the prison system might need to know the guy wants to be trans so it can keep track of his cross-sex hormone use, or provide medical care if he's had bottom surgery, which is always going to need some level of maintenance. But a guy who genuinely "is a woman on the inside"? Nah. Doesn't happen. Doesn't matter how he feels.
This is not compassion. This is an injustice to further traumatize women by allowing biological males to enter and potentially control their limited prison spaces.
There is a thread running through the discussions on transwomen in female-only spaces: it is biological women who are expected, as always, to "accommodate" biological men. Women athletes are expected to "support" transwomen competing against them, we are expected to "welcome" transwomen in our washrooms, rape crisis centres and even domestic abuse shelters. And women in prison, who as the whistle-blower rightly points out, have zero recourse - they cannot leave. Anyone still wondering how Trump won the election?
Women being required to accommodate men is a tale as old as time. You’d think society would run out of ideas for ways to put the needs and desires of men above than the needs and desires of women, wouldn’t you?
So one reason Trump won is because he wants to protect females?
Bear in mind, I am Canadian and watching this play out across the border, but the conversation is the same in Canada, and we are on track to elect Trump lite. Am I happy about that? Not at all. But the sense I have is that the Democrats and Canada's Liberal Party are not listening and are centering policy of all kinds on gender identity. Big mistake, as probably 70% to 80% of the electorate disagrees with that approach.
Same in Australia. Next year I'll be switching parties purely on Self ID etc.
And no, Trump does not want to protect women. He wants to subjugate them.
He has picked women to hold important positions in his administration. That is not subjugation.
He's the boss of them, right? Yes. That's subjugation.
Subjugate means to conquer or subdue. Appointing someone to a leadership position does not do either of these.
Your being facetious.
“No group should have preferential access that supersedes the rights of others.”
Precisely.
Can anyone imagine being a victim of rape and having to be quiet about being uncomfortable with a penis in your space? I don't think violent people should be housed with non-violent people EVER as it is. I don't care. I'll be the bigot, the -phobe, the -ist. Call me whatever you want. This is wrong.
You're so right. You're not a bigot, you're simply refusing to be silenced and/or controlled. Spread the word.
Thank you to the author and whistleblower for bringing this into the light. The public needs to know.
Amazing interview about a topic that needs to be amplified over and over again - LOUDLY. This kind of treatment of any human being, particularly the female inmates, is wrong and it needs to be fought with lawsuits. The time for women to rise, to stand up for one another, and for others to ostracize those who support this type of injustice is now. I admire the whistleblower. She seems to be one of the few medical professionals in these spaces actually upholding the Hippocratic Oath.
This is an important story. Thanks.
I have no doubt that you believe Olivia's account, but since one of the main challenges with educating the public on this issue is liberal disbelief of events not reported inside their media bubble, it will help significantly with the credibility of your story if you could explain how you verified Olivia's identity to your satisfaction, to the extent you are able while still respecting her need to remain anonymous.
You may recall that mainstream news services sometimes do this with a Note From The Editor at the beginning of the story, when they are reporting the account of an anonymous source.
This is a great question. Olivia provided me with copies of the institutional policy in PDF format. I included screenshots of that policy due to the limitations of Substack, but this is a verifiable source of information. While I did not personally attempt to contact KCJ to get their version of the story or to verify the authenticity of the documents, FAIR's legal team has been involved and supported by a Washington state attorney. In the article, I included a link to FAIR's legal action, which began in the summer based on other complaints to the Washington Department of Corrections.
Thanks!
Please note that the story says that Olivia volunteers with FAIR. This means that she is known to FAIR‘s staff.
That’s not how journalism works.
Just to be clear, FAIR is not a news organization. We’re an advocacy organization.
...who presumably want your published stories to be taken seriously by journalists, and re-published or used as sources, in order to spread the message.
Journalists are welcomed to contact us to fact-check, as well they should as part of their job. Our newsletter is not the press, although we have chosen to make it available to the public. It is a newsletter to our advocacy supporters for our missions who subscribed to stay updated on what we’re doing. We clarify again here the distinction.
Got it, thanks.
Any advocacy nonprofit PR-oriented person who reads this will be facepalming right about now 😂 Sorry, I love you guys, I do!! As soon as I have enough money for paid subscriptions again I am signing up!
Why don't they house the trans people together, apart from regular men and women?
I sometimes suspect if that were the housing they were offered there would be few to none trans women. The point is they want to be with women.
Of course. If the option to be housed with women were removed, most of these men wouldn't claim a trans identity. If you read Reduxx you'll find story after story of men who suddenly realized they were trans at the age of 50 after they were convicted of rape or murder. Convicted rapists, murderers and pedophiles, not famous for their integrity and honesty, are being gifted with a one-way ticket to Club Med simply by "identifying" as a woman.
"To be with women" is a euphemism for what they really want. Enough rapes, assaults, harassment and pregnancies have occurred all over the country to make that point perfectly clear.
Trans activists worked for years to remove all the governmental gatekeeping that used to be part of the transition process, e.g., psychotherapy, living as the opposite sex for a period of time without medicalizing to see how it feels, and finally taking hormones and having surgeries.
Now, in prison systems across the country, a man need only assert a woman identity, regardless of medical or historical evidence. The wanton disregard for the safety and welfare of incarcerated women, some of the most marginalized, disenfranchised women in the country, is an utter disgrace.
Postscript: I should have made it clear that whether or not men have a medical history of transgender identification (cross dressing, taking hormones), they are still men and do not belong in women's prisons in any case, with or without intact genitalia. Men have raped female inmates with the handle of a hairbrush. Addressing the issue of vulnerable trans-identified men in men's prisons should be resolved separately, not on the backs of women.
Thank you! I shared this on my blog (linked the full article here). This is an extremely cruel, hateful & hushed practice pointed straight at women.
I personally don't draw any difference between "trans women" and men. In my opinion there is no difference. We need to base our decisions off of facts in law, sex is a fact. Segregation between women and men should be based off of sex and only sex.
Time to roll it all back. No one can change their sex. The government should do nothing to incentivize or enforce this ideology.
"Our suspicion that females identifying as transgender were not benefiting from the transgender housing policies like males were" - So, patent sex discrimination. Somebody should sue
FAIR requested an investigation by the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice.
Up here in Canada, we have Heather Mason, who's been working tirelessly on bringing this issue to light. But, our legacy media outlets still refuse to acknowledge this is happening, so the vast majority of Canadians have no idea what is going on. And, sadly, a significant proportion prefer it that way.
This is cruel and unusual punishment for the women. If the ACLU actually did its stated job we'd have put an end to this already. And by the by, "transgender status" is always false. There is no point in declaring it, because it doesn't actually change any material fact about the person. At best, the prison system might need to know the guy wants to be trans so it can keep track of his cross-sex hormone use, or provide medical care if he's had bottom surgery, which is always going to need some level of maintenance. But a guy who genuinely "is a woman on the inside"? Nah. Doesn't happen. Doesn't matter how he feels.
Even now, we are still being called female, and not women.
We *are* female.
So are lions, dogs and monkeys. But she’s talking about human females, and we have a word for that.
Dude, didn’t anyone watch M*A*S*H? Klinger was a cross dresser too!